StarPolish Interview:
Sheryl Crow
Mary Lyn Maiscott Wednesday, May 22, 2002
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With Memorial Day still
days away, Sheryl Crow has already unleashed the summer anthem of 2002
-- her hit single, "Soak Up the Sun." Like her breakthrough
1994 record, "All I Wanna Do," the new song is an ode to having
fun, yet with undercurrents of unrest in the lyrics. Although her new
album, C'mon C'mon, seems less introspective and more upbeat than her
previous three albums, Crow says she had a difficult time, emotionally,
making it.
The daughter of musicians,
Crow has always been a complex artist. Blessed with great looks and a
supple voice, she nonetheless has never tried to skate by. Her immersion
in music shows in her craftsmanship as a songwriter, her decision to act
as her own producer, and even her homages to artists such as Steve Miller
(in the track Steve McQueen) and John Lennon (Diamond Road). She can certainly
write catchy melodies, but shes not afraid to show a little -- or a lot
of -- edge.
Now 40 -- "Forty is
the new 20!" she insists -- Crow has seemingly skyrocketed to superstar
status. But she actually took a steady, serious route to get there, studying
piano, teaching music, and touring as a backup singer with such luminaries
as Don Henley and Michael Jackson. Despite her phenomenal success, Crow
has managed to retain an engaging down-home quality, complemented by obvious
intelligence and thoughtfulness. She may have once offended Wal-Mart with
a lyric about children buying guns there (in "Love Is a Good Thing"),
but she's not likely to trash any hotel rooms or smash any instruments.
As a co- founder of the Recording Artists Coalition, she's even appeared
before Congress to ask that a law detrimental to artists be repealed.
The singer recently took
the time to speak to StarPolish contributor Mary Lyn Maiscott who, like
Crow, grew up in a small town in Missouri.
The Impact of Teaching
STARPOLISH: You taught
music in a rural Missouri elementary school early on. How did that affect
your songwriting and your singing?
CROW: I think teaching
gave me an awareness of how important music is to little kids, as far
as their development goes. I had a couple of classes of autistic kids,
with several kids who were non-communicative, and music really does somehow
or another get in and move molecules. It creates an immediate reaction
in people, and you can definitely see it first hand with autistic kids
in the way they react just to the vibrations of music. I carried that
around with me, somewhere inside -- just knowing that music really does
have a kind of miraculous power.
STARPOLISH: Your performance
of "Safe and Sound" on the telethon after September 11th was
very moving. Did doing that have a healing power for you?
CROW: It definitely did.
I think just being a part of that was therapeutic for everybody involved
because so many times as an artist you get thrown into these contrived
environments where they put artists together who don't even know each
other, who have very little in common, just to get a TV moment. And this
was everybody wanting to be there. There were no advertisers, not even
any fancy introductions for the artists. It was just something that felt
good in everybody's soul, that kind of released some of the helpless feeling
that everybody had after the event.
STARPOLISH: Getting back
to the jobs that you had before you signed with a label -- do you think
that musicians who have to work mundane or boring jobs can draw inspiration
from them for their songs?
CROW: Oh, totally. I think
that life totally informs your art, and whatever experiences you had,
if you can pull from them, always create the best lyrics. I think for
the most part, everybody goes through the same emotions and the same experiences
in life, one way or another. If you're talking about relationships, everyone
has experienced yearning and feelings of love, of despondency, of despair,
of hope. All these things can be tapped into from just the simplest situations.
Mainstream Music
STARPOLISH: Your own music
seems very personal. Did you concern yourself at the beginning with making
commercial music that would be played on mainstream radio?
CROW: It was interesting
-- on my first record, the first record that came out, the one song that
had the strongest life and that drew the most attention was "All
I Wanna Do," and that was a song that wasn't even going to go on
the record. Nor was it the first single they released; it was probably
the fourth or fifth. So I didn't really have a conscious plan of trying
to get on the radio. In fact, I don't even think I knew what that entailed,
obviously. So I think you just write songs that... you know, they just
come out the way they are and then later on you look at them and pass
judgment and all that. It's not like you're thinking, "Okay, Joe
Schmo is gonna hear this and I better change this word or change that."
It's a much more selfish process.
STARPOLISH: You did a lot
of background and jingle singing, and playing gigs before you got signed.
Do you have any advice for emerging artists about what they should be
doing before they get signed?
CROW: Oh, gosh. I don't
know. I did my share of waiting tables and, like I said, I taught school.
I did do gigs. I think the main thing really is just to try to get better
at your craft. Try to learn about yourself, who you are, so that when
you're faced with people telling you that you shouldn't do this or you
shouldn't do that, you have a pretty strong perception of what it is you
want to be doing. I just think the best thing to do, no matter what kind
of job you're doing to support yourself, is to try to stay true to your
art and just to keep working at it.
STARPOLISH: Do you thinktoo
much attention is focused on getting a major-label deal?
CROW: I think everything's
changing. With the huge occurrence of people downloading and a CD burner
in every household, the record industry's going to be changing and there
are going to be a lot of new independent labels that creep up. I think
there are other ways to get your music out if you don't get on the record
label.
The Internet
STARPOLISH: How important
is the Internet to your career?
CROW: I don't know. To
be honest, I got started really before the Internet was as huge as it
is, and I think most of my career was based on radio play. So I'm not
really sure how important it is to my distribution. I think probably not
that important.
STARPOLISH: Do you think
it's a useful tool for emerging artists?
CROW: At this point I think
it's a very useful tool to emerging artists, and it can be a really adventurous
way to... David Bowie is a great example, as well as Aimee Mann, of getting
your music out to the public and bypassing the major-label system. I'm
not sure that one is better than the other. I just think that it provides
opportunities to everyone.
STARPOLISH: You and Don
Henley have lobbied for artists' rights. What can artists do to protect
themselves when they're signing with a label?
CROW: The best thing, of
course, is to get somebody to represent you who can understand the jargon
of a record contract. I think there's as much to worry about in the area
of digital distribution as there is in the old-fashioned label system.
Everything is changing so heavily, it's just good to sort of stay abreast
of what's really happening out there.
STARPOLISH: In terms of
what should be in your contract and that kind of thing?
CROW:Yes. I think when
you sign a record deal and you're an unproven entity, you have very little
bargaining power with the record label. Your contract will pretty much
be what a standard contract is.
STARPOLISH: So there's
not really much you can do about that, just have a lawyer.
CROW: You can have a lawyer
come in, but when you're telling a record label that this is what you
want, they're going to say pretty much to you that you don't have any
proven record, so you don't have much bargaining power. That's basically
the way that it goes. Then, if you have success, later on you renegotiate
your contract. That's been the standard in the recording industry.
Collaborative Efforts
STARPOLISH: On your new
album you brought in some very big names -- Emmylou Harris, Lenny Kravitz,
Stevie Nicks. What's the value of bringing in people with their own strong
styles to your project?
CROW: My objective on this
record had nothing to do with that. For me, the people who were on this
record... were really about my comfort level. It was a very difficult
record for me to make. I felt like I didn't want to be in the studio;
I felt like I was missing out on my life. And so the more people that
were around, it made it more fun for me. And these people were all people
that were around serendipitously. Emmylou came down when I was in Nashville
just to hang out and visit and she really liked that song, and I asked
her if she would sing on it -- as well as Stevie, who I've had a long
relationship with, and Don... So, you know, it just happened that way.
It wasn't a conscious decision to have a bunch of collaborations on the
record. I think I'm kind of known for having a collaborative career.
STARPOLISH: You did that
right from the beginning, right? You had a group of people you met with
regularly?
CROW: Well, the first record
was sort of inspired by a group of people that were getting together on
Tuesday nights. Although the whole record wasn't made that way, it began
that way.
STARPOLISH: So you think
that even from the beginning, people can kind of mix it up with their
musician friends and be inspired by what they're doing?
CROW: I think it's a real
individual decision. It just depends on what your career has been inspired
by. I really gravitated when I was a kid to musicians like The Band and
the Stones, and you would see these old films of people playing with each
other. So that's kind of what I thought a music career would be like.
STARPOLISH: Are you touring
now?
CROW: We're going to be
touring starting in July, and we'll be touring probably through middle
of September.
The Challenge for Emerging
Artists
STARPOLISH: What do you
see as the biggest change -- or maybe challenge -- for emerging artists
today compared to when you were starting out?
CROW: I think the biggest
challenge is trying to maintain; to have longevity. I think pop has become
so disposable and it's become so sort of marketed that it's difficult
to create a real legitimate fan base that is loyal. The best thing you
can do for yourself and for your art is to get out and play and create
a fan base who will be with you, and then to go from there -- as opposed
to getting a lot of media attention and then trying to get followers.
STARPOLISH: And the Internet
can be really helpful with that?
CROW: Yeah, absolutely.
STARPOLISH: Do you have
any general words of advice for bands that might want to learn from your
experience?
CROW: Yeah -- I think it
really behooves artists to get good on their instruments, to learn other
people's music, to practice, to try to write a little bit every day, to
get good at your craft because no matter what is happening out there,
it's really the song that's the most important thing; it's not what you're
wearing. It's really the song that gets inside of people and moves them
to buy your record.
STARPOLISH: That can definitely
get lost with such a focus on image and all of that. Your lyrics are very
rich, very detailed. Do you have anything you do to bring on the muse,
or do the songs come easily?
CROW: I find inspiration
in other writers. If I'm feeling a need to sit down and write and I don't
know what I want to write about, sometimes I put on other records and
it will loosen things up. I also think that reading books can be really
helpful. Like on my second record, I was reading a book called Ask the
Dust, by John Fante, and I kind of found my voice through the alter ego
of Arturo Bandini. So I think sometimes you can really pull some inspiration
from outside information.
STARPOLISH: Do you enjoy
singing the new songs?
CROW: I do, very much.
There's a lot of energy and it's a different record from the other three
I've made, and its been real fun to play, real fresh.
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